Comments on: Vegetarians Please Stop Trying To Convert Me… http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/ A blog for natural families with green values Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:55:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Wilson http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/comment-page-1/#comment-112746 Wilson Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:04:20 +0000 http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-112746 Vegetarian diet is theoretically good for health... The question is... are you taking the correct vegetarian diet... vegetarian diet causing health problem did exist... but I rarely heard about it... one or two cases... I am taking vegetarian diet most of the time... Probably, if you really concern about living healthy with vegetarian diet... try consult nutritionist... from what i know... the only vitamins that vegan or vegetarian food lack of is b12... try taking b complex... b12 is only from animal but b12 can also be taken from deactivated yeast.... some body builders are vegan... but they know their diet.... I do not have objections on dairy products... but only if it is from organic farm... Vegetarian diet is theoretically good for health… The question is… are you taking the correct vegetarian diet… vegetarian diet causing health problem did exist… but I rarely heard about it… one or two cases… I am taking vegetarian diet most of the time… Probably, if you really concern about living healthy with vegetarian diet… try consult nutritionist…

from what i know… the only vitamins that vegan or vegetarian food lack of is b12… try taking b complex… b12 is only from animal but b12 can also be taken from deactivated yeast…. some body builders are vegan… but they know their diet….

I do not have objections on dairy products… but only if it is from organic farm…

]]> By: Vallow Shall http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/comment-page-1/#comment-72169 Vallow Shall Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:53:38 +0000 http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-72169 I like your post. I also like your rants because I know of so many "vegans" who live horrible lifestyles of selfishnes, abuse to other people, and inconsistencies. How can one preach morals and live like a villian? They also lie, A LOT! Militancy has not place in how or what we eat. I am sick of all these "ovo-lacto-pesco-ipso-facto idjits. And now for my little "poime:" Vegetarians don’t eat flesh What a simple phrase Vegetarians also don’t eat fish It doesn’t work that way If you eat fish or eggs You are not a ‘tarian If you eat shell animals You are just like I am I love vegetarianism It’s a sound way to eat But you are NOT a vegetarian If you eat ANY TYPE of meat Thank you. I'll be here all week and try the veal (just kidding). I like your post. I also like your rants because I know of so many “vegans” who live horrible lifestyles of selfishnes, abuse to other people, and inconsistencies. How can one preach morals and live like a villian? They also lie, A LOT! Militancy has not place in how or what we eat. I am sick of all these “ovo-lacto-pesco-ipso-facto idjits. And now for my little “poime:”

Vegetarians don’t eat flesh
What a simple phrase
Vegetarians also don’t eat fish
It doesn’t work that way

If you eat fish or eggs
You are not a ‘tarian
If you eat shell animals
You are just like I am

I love vegetarianism
It’s a sound way to eat
But you are NOT a vegetarian
If you eat ANY TYPE of meat

Thank you. I’ll be here all week and try the veal (just kidding).

]]> By: The Virtues Of Vinegar : Elaine Vigneault http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/comment-page-1/#comment-19219 The Virtues Of Vinegar : Elaine Vigneault Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:03:36 +0000 http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-19219 [...] would help their cause. If anything it made me rethink my decision to eat there next week." from Nature Moms via Veggie Chic and Kids [...] [...] would help their cause. If anything it made me rethink my decision to eat there next week.” from Nature Moms via Veggie Chic and Kids [...]

]]> By: Tiffany http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/comment-page-1/#comment-18059 Tiffany Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:38:19 +0000 http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-18059 LaTara I read recently in a book from a raw vegan that she changed her mind about the honey issue after she met a very ethical bee keeper. He explained that were lots of very ethical bee keepers that go out of their way to potect their bees and make their populations thrive. They are actually helping with the larger problem of bee populations dying off. The bees keepers are providing them with everything they are struggling to find in the wild on their own. But if no one eats the honey than they can't make a living and they have to give up...perhaps selling their colonies to someone who won't care for them and only wants money...so using honey CAN be an excellent way to actually support bees and help them thrive if you are buying it from the right places. LaTara I read recently in a book from a raw vegan that she changed her mind about the honey issue after she met a very ethical bee keeper. He explained that were lots of very ethical bee keepers that go out of their way to potect their bees and make their populations thrive. They are actually helping with the larger problem of bee populations dying off. The bees keepers are providing them with everything they are struggling to find in the wild on their own. But if no one eats the honey than they can’t make a living and they have to give up…perhaps selling their colonies to someone who won’t care for them and only wants money…so using honey CAN be an excellent way to actually support bees and help them thrive if you are buying it from the right places.

]]> By: LaTara Ham-Ying http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/comment-page-1/#comment-18036 LaTara Ham-Ying Sun, 28 Oct 2007 03:30:57 +0000 http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-18036 Thank you for the clarification Tiffany. I understand your issue with vegetarians and vegans who out meat eaters down. It happens to me even as a vegan because we eat honey. For me it is neither here nor there. Thanks again for the clarification. <em>LaTara Ham-Ying's last blog post..</em><a href='http://www.veganfamilyliving.com/vegan-family-living-show-8' rel="nofollow">Vegan Family Living Podcast Show 8 - Vegan Snacks</a> Thank you for the clarification Tiffany. I understand your issue with vegetarians and vegans who out meat eaters down. It happens to me even as a vegan because we eat honey. For me it is neither here nor there.

Thanks again for the clarification.

LaTara Ham-Ying’s last blog post..Vegan Family Living Podcast Show 8 – Vegan Snacks

]]> By: Tiffany http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/comment-page-1/#comment-17963 Tiffany Fri, 26 Oct 2007 23:03:07 +0000 http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-17963 Hi LaTara, I am not sure why you thought my post was judging vegetarians or vegans because that is not what it was meant to do. I have many vegan friends and I am just fine with their dietary decisions. This post was meant call out those that judge the meat eaters, including those that eat meat as ethically as possible...like myself. Meat eaters are constantly bashed by the veggie crowd for being uncompassionate and for being pseudo environmentalists. Just look at the comments on this post and the people who mention that vegans are "compassionate" as if we can miss the point that meat eaters are heartless meanies. As I stated I can only go by my own experience with vegetarian eating and it worked out quite badly for me...I would never go that route again unless sit was all raw as well but even then it is not likely. What I did not mention was that I got mono while I was eating vegetarian because my immune system was so suppressed and I inadvertently passed it to a friend of mine who nearly died of spinal meningitis. It took a long time for my body to recover from the trauma I put it through. Maybe I was doing some things wrong but I think two years was a pretty good "try". That doesn't mean I think there are no healthy vegans...I know that there are...I know several raw vegans that are VERY healthy. But even with them I get annoyed with the attitude toward meat eaters...even raw meat eaters. I don't like being called uncompassionate, or a killer, or a fake environmentalist because I choose to eat animal products ...that is what I was trying to get across with this post. Sorry you were offended LaTara. Hi LaTara, I am not sure why you thought my post was judging vegetarians or vegans because that is not what it was meant to do. I have many vegan friends and I am just fine with their dietary decisions. This post was meant call out those that judge the meat eaters, including those that eat meat as ethically as possible…like myself. Meat eaters are constantly bashed by the veggie crowd for being uncompassionate and for being pseudo environmentalists. Just look at the comments on this post and the people who mention that vegans are “compassionate” as if we can miss the point that meat eaters are heartless meanies.

As I stated I can only go by my own experience with vegetarian eating and it worked out quite badly for me…I would never go that route again unless sit was all raw as well but even then it is not likely. What I did not mention was that I got mono while I was eating vegetarian because my immune system was so suppressed and I inadvertently passed it to a friend of mine who nearly died of spinal meningitis. It took a long time for my body to recover from the trauma I put it through. Maybe I was doing some things wrong but I think two years was a pretty good “try”.

That doesn’t mean I think there are no healthy vegans…I know that there are…I know several raw vegans that are VERY healthy. But even with them I get annoyed with the attitude toward meat eaters…even raw meat eaters. I don’t like being called uncompassionate, or a killer, or a fake environmentalist because I choose to eat animal products …that is what I was trying to get across with this post.

Sorry you were offended LaTara.

]]> By: LaTara Ham-Ying http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/comment-page-1/#comment-17961 LaTara Ham-Ying Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:36:52 +0000 http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-17961 I have to say I am very saddened by what I am reading. I am a vegan. Not because of animal rights, or anything like that; but for other reasons. I am healthier as a result of going vegan. Judging a person because they are or are not is not right. This is why I am so hesitant at times to share my journey, even though I have a vegan business. It is still very painful. Being a vegan is just like being a meat eater. It is all about balance. The same vitamins that are in meat can be found in many fruits, vegetables, grains, and other items. Here is a good place to learn more http://library.thinkquest.org/20922/where_nutrients.htm I am sorry that some of you have had a bad experience being vegetarian or vegan. But I do not think it is fair to knock it if you do not know all there is to know about it. I never judge someone because of what they choose to eat. I do share, however, the fact that if you do choose to eat meat, make sure it is as organic as possible and is free range. I tell them same about dairy. I do not follow PETA or any vegetarian or vegan societies that promote treating people wrong. I just don't roll like that. I don't advocate a lot of unnecessary mess. I really do not know what more to say because I just did not think I would come across this here on this blog. Pro-activity is key in all we do. Every man has a choice. <em>LaTara Ham-Ying's last blog post..</em><a href='http://www.veganfamilyliving.com/vegan-family-living-show-8' rel="nofollow">Vegan Family Living Podcast Show 8 - Vegan Snacks</a> I have to say I am very saddened by what I am reading. I am a vegan. Not because of animal rights, or anything like that; but for other reasons. I am healthier as a result of going vegan.

Judging a person because they are or are not is not right. This is why I am so hesitant at times to share my journey, even though I have a vegan business. It is still very painful.

Being a vegan is just like being a meat eater. It is all about balance. The same vitamins that are in meat can be found in many fruits, vegetables, grains, and other items. Here is a good place to learn more http://library.thinkquest.org/20922/where_nutrients.htm

I am sorry that some of you have had a bad experience being vegetarian or vegan. But I do not think it is fair to knock it if you do not know all there is to know about it.

I never judge someone because of what they choose to eat. I do share, however, the fact that if you do choose to eat meat, make sure it is as organic as possible and is free range. I tell them same about dairy.

I do not follow PETA or any vegetarian or vegan societies that promote treating people wrong. I just don’t roll like that. I don’t advocate a lot of unnecessary mess.

I really do not know what more to say because I just did not think I would come across this here on this blog.

Pro-activity is key in all we do. Every man has a choice.

LaTara Ham-Ying’s last blog post..Vegan Family Living Podcast Show 8 – Vegan Snacks

]]> By: I Like It Raw Baby - Food That Is » Natural Family Living Blog http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/comment-page-1/#comment-17881 I Like It Raw Baby - Food That Is » Natural Family Living Blog Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:01:11 +0000 http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-17881 [...] all started several weeks ago when I had some good conversations with readers after my post on vegetarianism and veganism that sparked so much controversy. It was suggested that maybe I might have felt different about my [...] [...] all started several weeks ago when I had some good conversations with readers after my post on vegetarianism and veganism that sparked so much controversy. It was suggested that maybe I might have felt different about my [...]

]]> By: Kids Dish » Blog Archive » Vegetarian Carnival http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/comment-page-1/#comment-17703 Kids Dish » Blog Archive » Vegetarian Carnival Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:07:00 +0000 http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-17703 [...] this week’s edition Tiffany Washko writes a piece called Vegetarians Please Stop Trying To Convert Me… posted at Natural Family Living Blog. A former vegetarian, Tiffany is bothered by the tone of [...] [...] this week’s edition Tiffany Washko writes a piece called Vegetarians Please Stop Trying To Convert Me… posted at Natural Family Living Blog. A former vegetarian, Tiffany is bothered by the tone of [...]

]]> By: mama k http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/comment-page-1/#comment-17431 mama k Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:32:23 +0000 http://www.naturemoms.com/blog/2007/10/09/vegetarians-please-stop-trying-to-convert-me/#comment-17431 A very well written post. While I strive to eat less meat in my diet... mostly because I do not like the way conventional meat is processed, I have struggled with the though of going completely vegeterian or vegan. I have always had this feeling that humans are by nature omnivores and it seems that your resources confirm that. For me, it is more productive to focus my time and resources on consuming organic/free range animal products on a limited basis. A very well written post. While I strive to eat less meat in my diet… mostly because I do not like the way conventional meat is processed, I have struggled with the though of going completely vegeterian or vegan.
I have always had this feeling that humans are by nature omnivores and it seems that your resources confirm that.
For me, it is more productive to focus my time and resources on consuming organic/free range animal products on a limited basis.

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